I had a sad realization that I needed to stop roll brushing Sydney's hair, it's just too thin & brittle. SO. . . in efforts to still be able to play we tried sponge rollers. She did good putting them in and leaving them in, but the end result we decided she looked like a combination of Grandma Pam & Grandpa Chip. Pam's color, and Chip's curls! We will have to work on this one still!